I was being enthusiastic (also known as ranting) about the educational potential of Flickr notes (see a previous post). I was demonstrating different uses of notes: teacher drawing attention to an aspect of an image; teacher giving a clickable link to further information; teacher asking a question; pupils sharing something they've noticed or learned; pupils asking questions; pupils highlighting areas of danger in a photograph; etc. I also talked about geotagging (which is what I meant to talk about next and will feature in a blog post soon) but that's not what made them sit up and take note either.
When I mentioned that all the pictures in my presentation had come from Flickr and that they were copyright free -- that's when they sat up and took notice!
Now, before I go any further, I know that it is not accurate to say that Flickr photographs are "copyright free". However, many are made available under Creative Commons Licences and if people have not heard of Creative Commons, I find it easier to say, "copyright free" and then, once I have their attention, explain what Creative Commons actually means. :-)
I hope I didn't give the impression that all the photographs on Flickr have a Creative Commons licence (I was pushed for time) but a phenomenal number do! The Flickr Creative Commons page describes four different aspects of the licence that can be applied to Flickr photos. Perhaps the simplest is the Attribution Licence. This means the photographer will:
let others copy, distribute, display, and perform [the photographer's] copyrighted work - and derivative works based upon it - but only if they give [the photographer] credit.At the time of writing there are over one and a half million photos under an Attribution Licence! However, the largest number of photographs (almost 4.7 million) are available under an Attribution - NonCommercial - NoDerivs Licence. Roughly speaking, this means you can use a photograph as long as you give the photographer credit, do not sell it or use it to make money, and do not alter it in any way.
If you go to a Flickr Creative Commons Licence page, (e.g. the Attribution - NonCommercial - NoDerivs Licence page) you can search for photographs with that particular licence. Brilliant!
I love Flickr Creative Commons searches. When I want an image to illustrate a blog post or a presentation, it has rarely let me down. I like that you can enter fairly abstract terms and find good, concrete, visual illustrations. For example, in a previous post I wanted an image that said, "help". In the end I went for a photograph of a help key, but I was very tempted to use this image of Alec.
So, why not give Flickr Creative Commons pictures a try the next time you want an image for a worksheet, or to use as a stimulus for creative writing, or to support a discussion task, or to illustrate a point, or...? You get the picture? :-)
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Grat stuff David.
ReplyDeleteIt would be nice if flickr had a page that you could just link to for attribution, I guess linking to flickr would do, unless the picture is one you have legally altered(I've used cc pictures for a couple of blog headers).
I'd also like to flickr to provide feeds for creative commons tags. It would be easy then to provide a pile of photos for children to use. This could work if flickr auto-tagged cc content.
Anne, what can I say? Thank you for taking the time to type such an extensive and encouraging response. It's when I get comments like this that I remember why I enjoy blogging so much. :-)
ReplyDeleteI must admit, I have never specifically asked a photographer for permission (since not having to do that is partly what CC is all about). However, it occurs to me that it would cost me very little in time and effort to leave a comment on the page of the photos I use. It wouldn't have to be extensive, just a, "thank-you for CCing this photo," and perhaps a brief, "and this is how I used it." I know how much I enjoy getting comments on a blog post, so I think I would like it if someone did that to me if they used one of my photographs. Do unto others... I think I may go back and do this retrospectively for some of the images I've used recently. Thanks for this idea.
Sharing prictures in "generally accepted educational categories" could be tricky because of the lack of general concensus about anything among teachers. :-) Also, the images I find most useful are the slightly off-beat ones, like "Help" in this post which don't easily fit into an "educational category". However, I wonder if it would be worth having a general, education friendly, tag that could be applied to appropriate CCed photos. What about:
* EduFlickr
* SchoolFlickr or
* FlickrTeachr ?
Sorry, couldn't resist dropping the "e" :-)
As for a Flickr Guide... I'll need to think about that, but it might be fun to have a go.
Hello John
ReplyDeleteI suppose the CC search provided by Flickr is a kind of auto-tagging, it's just that the tags are hidden. For example, the "Attribution, no-derivatives" search page is http://www.flickr.com/creativecommons/by-nd-2.0/ so by-nd-2.0 is kind of an automatic tag - it's just not listed as a tag.
I'm not sure what I think about automatic tagging. I think I would be happy if I was able to turn it on or off... but as soon as you let people turn it off, it kind of defeats the purpose of it being automatic in the first place. :-)
Hi David,
ReplyDeleteYep, auto tagging is probably a bad idea, I really want RSS feeds for CC content. So that teachers could provide pupils with a page that pull in links in del.icio.us with cc photos from flicker (and a bunch of other stuff)
A flickr guide would be a great idea. You could write it here and then pull it altogether into a pdf!
Ah... now I get you. An RSS fed of a CC search on a particular topic would be cool. It's such I good idea that I initially thought, "But they do that already!" However, while they give you RSS for your own photos, for groups and for tag searches, they don't seem to offer one for CC searches. Curses!
ReplyDeleteHad a quick look in the forums and someone else was asking for this feature, so hopefully someone at Flickr is thinking about it. :-)
I like the idea of saying thank you to the photographer as well as giving a link back to their profile. It is always really nice to get a comment on a photo!
ReplyDeleteI have had some feedback from the ICT coordinators meetings last week that you refer to. All of it was positive! There was a real buzz around the ideas you were talking about with lots of ways that we can start to take it forward. A reference to your blog on using flickr is now on our eds website.
On the idea of the eduflickr tag, I quite like this idea. I'll start to use this one on some of my photos
Thanks for the feedback Gordon. Keep me posted if you hear of any of your teachers doing things with these tools. I'd love to see how they use them.
ReplyDeleteI can agree that in the last year using flickr cc-licensed photo in presenations, and then showing an audience how muhc there is to us, grabs their attention. For that matter, I am still rather surprised at how few people/educators are even aware of cc licensed content, and that they can easily find and re-use medua w/o needing to ask, pay, or bother.
ReplyDeleteI nearly always try to link, as attribution, to the original page.
The thing I don't like as much about flickr's cc section, is that the search is forked into different paths by license, so you have to bounce up and down between license categories-- that's there the net jums in- if you have not seent it, use the Flickrlilli tool that is a better way to seatc flickr' cc collection:
http://flickrlilli.org.uk/
Hello Alan
ReplyDeleteI'd had a go with Flickrlilli a wee while ago and I did like the one-stop-search-everything approach. However, I also like the way Flickr allows you to view thumbnails of the results and since the Attribution - NonCommercial - NoDerivs category is so huge, I usually find what I'm looking for there anyway.
For this post I decided to stay within Flickr to make the different licence types clearer, but I have Flickrlilli filed away and it may feature in a future EduFlickr post.
I did get a bit excited though as I wondered if Flickrlilli would provide an RSS feed of the results (something John was looking for) but alas, no! I might drop Elliot a line to see if an RSS feed is something he is thinking about. Hmm!
Thanks for getting me thinking about this again.